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    Anyone recognize the maker of this body?



    I got it on eBay for cheap. The seller said he was told it was an Allparts body when he bought it as part of a completed guitar, but it didn't have any identifying marks in it so he wasn't certain. I was just curious if anyone recognized who the maker might be from the odd pickup routes... that's about the only clue I see.

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    It looks like a black one that I got off ebay last month. Mine is an alder body and I was told by the seller it was a Chinese Squier body.
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    Re: Anyone recognize the maker of this body?

    Judging by the huge pickguard screw holes, I'd say it was made in Asia.

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    Re: Anyone recognize the maker of this body?

    The radii along the edges look quite large. Gives a kind of puffy look.
    There was a "Fender" with a body like that in a local shop recently.
    The headstock said Fender, but I have never seen anything like it.
    The neck was fat, but barely finished, and had kind of sharp edges, very flat fretboard too. Wierd combo of neck characteristics.
    It was really light, almost like the body was polyurethane or something.

    From the phtot, yours is obviously wood though. So that's good.
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    Re: Anyone recognize the maker of this body?

    Here's a view of the back.


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    Re: Anyone recognize the maker of this body?

    If it works, it works.
    Hopefully all the holes will be in the right places for you to mount everything to.
    That's all that matters now.
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    Re: Anyone recognize the maker of this body?

    Yeah, it was cheap enough that as long as it isn't plywood, I'll be happy with it. The seller says he bought it as a complete guitar and everything lined up fine. It had a MIM neck on it at that time.

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    Re: Anyone recognize the maker of this body?

    Quote Originally Posted by NeoFauve View Post
    If it works, it works.
    Exschamtly.

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    Re: Anyone recognize the maker of this body?

    I noticed a guy on eBay selling a lot of bodies that look identical to this... very same style to the pup routes. I asked him who made them and he didn't know. He bought them as a lot from a business that was closing and didn't know the maker. He claims they look to him to be higher quality than MIM...but who knows?

    Here's a link to that seller. These have the same style routes and similar black markings in the cavity under the controls.

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    Re: Anyone recognize the maker of this body?

    Quote Originally Posted by NeoFauve View Post
    The radii along the edges look quite large. Gives a kind of puffy look.

    That is closer to the original radius that Fender used.

    There threads here where members have taken different bodies and rounded them over to look more like this.

    Looks like a regular production Fender body to me. MIM, MIJ, or MIK.

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    Re: Anyone recognize the maker of this body?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wilko View Post
    That is closer to the original radius that Fender used.

    There threads here where members have taken different bodies and rounded them over to look more like this.

    Looks like a regular production Fender body to me. MIM, MIJ, or MIK.
    Hmmm... the seller wasn't sure, like I said, he was told it was Allparts...but I don't believe that to be the case. Allparts has never routed like that, to the best of my knowledge. He said it had a MIM neck and other MIM hardware, so it could be a MIM body I suppose. I've seen some with that same style of routing, but they usually had the three divits drilled in the body under the front two pups like this one.



    The bottom of the cavity is neater too.

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    Re: Anyone recognize the maker of this body?

    One tell-tell sign, on the Chinese Squiers, they have the screw holes for the tremolo cover spaced evenly. On all other Srats the screw hole on the top center is set closer to the front screw making it slightly offset about 3/4 inch.

    They are decent bodies but you will find that a lot of 'standard Strat' parts will not fit without relocating screw holes or slight modification. The neck pocket screw holes are spaced a little closer together. But all can be modified to work, just takes a little effort.

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    Re: Anyone recognize the maker of this body?

    I bought my Tele body, and other hardware from that seller (n.aalox).
    Most of his stuff was MIM, AFAIK.
    Is that who sold you the white body?
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    Re: Anyone recognize the maker of this body?

    Quote Originally Posted by NeoFauve View Post
    I bought my Tele body, and other hardware from that seller (n.aalox).
    Most of his stuff was MIM, AFAIK.
    Is that who sold you the white body?
    Nope... I was just using one of his pics to illustrate the similarity of pickup routes between his and the one I got. I bought mine from another guy.

    I should have the thing in hand tomorrow and can make a more informed report. If things are significantly misaligned as far as mounting holes go, I'm not going to screw with it. I'll just chalk it up to "lesson learned" and stop trying to get something cheap on eBay. Seems like more often than not, you get f*cked going for "cheap"....or at least I do.
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    Re: Anyone recognize the maker of this body?

    If it doesn't work out, you can just put a little time into it.


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    Re: Anyone recognize the maker of this body?

    Say.... that's snazzy....

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    Re: Anyone recognize the maker of this body?

    Dammit... just got the body in today and it's unusable for my needs. It must be a MIC Affinity. None of the MIJ parts I have will fit. I could probably shoehorn together a poorly aligned crapocaster with a lot of work, but frankly... as poor as the fit is, I don't think it would be worth it. Should've done my homework first.

    There's a John Mayer strat body on the bay right now. Anybody know if MIJ parts will fit one of those? I don't wanna screw up twice.

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    Re: Anyone recognize the maker of this body?

    If anyone has any Squier Affinity parts and want an oly white body.. .I know where you can get one cheap...

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    Re: Anyone recognize the maker of this body?

    Jeezus... now I'm being told by someone familiar with them that it's a Samick Harmony and could be had for about the price of a pack of bubblegum on eBay.


    I got royally screwed.
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    When something of low/little value pisses me off, I take it out to the garage and do some bonding with my sledgehammer....


    Just a suggestion, It usually cheers me up...

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    Re: Anyone recognize the maker of this body?

    Quote Originally Posted by uncle looie View Post
    Dammit... just got the body in today and it's unusable for my needs. It must be a MIC Affinity. None of the MIJ parts I have will fit. I could probably shoehorn together a poorly aligned crapocaster with a lot of work, but frankly... as poor as the fit is, I don't think it would be worth it. Should've done my homework first.

    There's a John Mayer strat body on the bay right now. Anybody know if MIJ parts will fit one of those? I don't wanna screw up twice.
    This is what eBay feedback is for. Step one is to contact the seller and tell him how full of shit he is and try to get a refund peaceful-like. If that fails, give him the crap feedback he deserves.
    s'all goof.

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    "It's unwise to pay too much, but it's worse to pay too little. When you pay too much, you lose a little money - that is all. When you pay too little, you sometimes lose everything, because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do. The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot -it can't be done.

    IF YOU DEAL WITH THE LOWEST BIDDER, IT IS WELL TO ADD SOMETHING FOR THE RISK YOU RUN

    and if you do that, you will have enough to pay for something better."
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    and imo, that's not even an affinity body.
    those PG screwholes are the RED FLAG for me.
    terrible!!!!

    that was a body blank that someshoemaker drilled.

    neg feedback that mofo!
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    Re: Anyone recognize the maker of this body?

    I'm pretty sure it's a Samick. I've had a guy that is very familiar with Samicks tell me he's 100% sure that that's what it is. I got f*cked, plain and simple due to my own ignorance.

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    Re: Anyone recognize the maker of this body?

    Well (preparing for the onslaught of attacks)....

    If the seller didn't specifically say with any certainly that it was a Fender-compatible item, then it is exactly what he claimed.

    Of course, he could be claiming ignorance - "I think it might be from Allparts" when he might well know it's not.

    But you went into the auction without having any assurances that it would fit. And you got what you paid for. Whether you paid too much or not was something only you had control over.

    IMHO, a negative feedback would be unwarranted, unless the guy lied about what he had.
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    Re: Anyone recognize the maker of this body?

    I asked him about a specific number of things to do with origin, fit, etc and he either lied to me outright or grossly understated his answers on all of them. One of the questions I asked specifically was if Fender parts would work and he assured me they would when in fact, they will not. I asked him if the neck pocket had been modified in any way since there was no overspray in the pocket. He said "my tech just cleaned it up a little"....when in fact, he'd routed out over 1/4" of wood from the original route to try to make a Fender neck work, apparently.

    But, I figured I was stuck with it anyway. I got ripped off due to my own ignorance, like I said.

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    Re: Anyone recognize the maker of this body?

    Well, I think if you wanted to, you could make an issue of his saying Fender parts would fit on it. If he said in no uncertain terms that Fender parts would fit, and if he didn't make any qualifying statements like "with some modification," then you could argue that he misled you about the product's suitability for your purposes, whether he meant to or not.

    Under those circumstances, you'd be entitled to your money back. And I'm not sure you'd have to convince him of that...you probably only have to convince eBay.
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    Re: Anyone recognize the maker of this body?

    I've opened a dispute with him on Paypal...but I doubt it'll do much good.

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    Re: Anyone recognize the maker of this body?

    Whattaya know? I guess that does work sometimes. The seller promised a full refund.

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    Re: Anyone recognize the maker of this body?

    Congrats.

    You can leave a positive, with a note like "dispute resolved amicably" or something.
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    Nice to hear that it's gonna work out for ya.

    I always say buy GOOD parts. Like Frank said, if you buy something cheap that doesn't work, you've lost all your money, not over paid a little bit.


    Better luck on the next one

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    Re: Anyone recognize the maker of this body?

    Quote Originally Posted by uncle looie View Post
    I'm pretty sure it's a Samick. I've had a guy that is very familiar with Samicks tell me he's 100% sure that that's what it is. I got f*cked, plain and simple due to my own ignorance.

    no way!
    isn't samick the 1st or 2nd leading mfg of guitars in the world?
    CNC machines don't do work like that!

    that looks like it was made in some back-woods shed, imo.

    can u email me the ebay link or auction #?...i'd love to see the actual auction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frank thomson View Post
    no way!
    isn't samick the 1st or 2nd leading mfg of guitars in the world?
    CNC machines don't do work like that!

    that looks like it was made in some back-woods shed, imo.

    can u email me the ebay link or auction #?...i'd love to see the actual auction.
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    The body is not in new condition, its been used, and modified as louie stated. The screw holes have been used to fit a pickguard that didn't line up perfect. The spots that your seeing are from the last owner, not the manufacturer.

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    Re: Anyone recognize the maker of this body?

    As an end to this saga, I got the seller of this body to take it back. Bought a MIA body off ebay, bolted it all together and I'm happy.

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    Good to hear, happy playin

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