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    I need a New Amp

    Any thoughts on a good bass amp for under $500.
    I have an old Acoustic 118 solid state 15" that still works but I have never goten the deep thumping sound that I crave.

    Thanks

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    Re: I need a New Amp

    Under $500 New - or used?


    Do you want a head, or rig? (Tie head into existing Cab?)

    Combo or head/cab?

    How much power do you "need"? Playing live, running to board and use for stage volume?

    Jam at home, just for fun? Play out for money - justify a bigger rig?



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    Re: I need a New Amp

    Like to get a new one sound is more of what Im after I would pay more too but $500 is the ballpark on cost.

    I just got back into playing again and would like to gig again so I would want somthing that can be moved easy but play loud enough too. But right now Im jamming at home.

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    Re: I need a New Amp

    The Ampeg BA 115 series (several choices) combos are around that price range and have a good sound with thump. Perfect for home with the headphone tap, and loud enough for small gigs while being very portable.

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    Re: I need a New Amp

    Quote Originally Posted by javlib View Post
    The Ampeg BA 115 series (several choices) combos are around that price range and have a good sound with thump. Perfect for home with the headphone tap, and loud enough for small gigs while being very portable.
    Thanks for the info!

    What about Peaveys the local music shop has a few nice ones but like I was saying its been awhile since I have looked at something new and I remember Peaveys being crap.

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    Re: I need a New Amp

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarge View Post
    I just got back into playing again and would like to gig again so I would want somthing that can be moved easy but play loud enough too. But right now Im jamming at home.
    "Deep thumping" and "moved easily" sorta pull in opposite directions in my limited experience.

    I've got a Roland bass cube 100 that I like very much as an "at home" amp that is easy to lug out when required, and while it is very loud (easily overpower an unamped drum kit), and has a great range of sounds, the "deep thumping" that you get with a big cabinet is the one missing element.

    Fortunately, I don't have the craving. But I know bassists that do... and generally, they have big cars.

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    Re: I need a New Amp

    I picked up a Nemisis 2 x 10 several years back for under $300
    light, 200+ w and a very useful amp
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    Re: I need a New Amp

    fwiw: I suggest saving a couple more C notes and buying a used power amp + a Tech21 RBI pre.

    Then add inexpensive Avatar cab(s) with whatever's in your budget.

    With two compact cabs you and reduce or expand your rig to fit the venue.

    For $700 you should be able to build a complete, flexible rig with thump and portability. It's been working well for me for quite a while now.

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    Re: I need a New Amp

    Quote Originally Posted by doc540 View Post
    fwiw: I suggest saving a couple more C notes and buying a used power amp + a Tech21 RBI pre.

    Then add inexpensive Avatar cab(s) with whatever's in your budget.

    With two compact cabs you and reduce or expand your rig to fit the venue.

    For $700 you should be able to build a complete, flexible rig with thump and portability. It's been working well for me for quite a while now.

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    Hey - thats the rig I have....I wonder where I got the idea (Doc.....Your my hero!)

    Seriously, I think Doc is right, if you go used and take your time.....you can do it price wise. Otherwise......about 2-2.5 times that.......

    If I could get a Peavey Classic 400 head .....now that would be something!

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    Re: I need a New Amp

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    Re: I need a New Amp

    good price, but only if you're young and have a strong back ;)
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    Re: I need a New Amp

    thats why i use the QSC PlLX line (Asstated by some guy called Doc)...it is one of the lightest power amps out tody in this category......
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    Re: I need a New Amp

    Thanks for all the great advise guys. The guy who runs the local Music Shop said the same thing about building my sound system with a head and cab set up. I never thought of breaking it down into 3 parts but it make s more sense then a big combo. After the holidays Im going shopping!

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    Re: I need a New Amp

    The component route is the way to go. If a part of it fails it's a lot easier to beg, borrow, or steal a part than a whole amp. Should be easier to keep yourself running. Plus you can try our different bits and fine tune your rig to your taste.
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    Re: I need a New Amp

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarge View Post
    Thanks for all the great advise guys. The guy who runs the local Music Shop said the same thing about building my sound system with a head and cab set up. I never thought of breaking it down into 3 parts but it make s more sense then a big combo. After the holidays Im going shopping!
    Call Chuck Levin's for a price on the Tech21. 301.948.8808
    Bet'cha ten bucks they beat everyone in the known world.

    You can surf Ebay for deals on QSC PLX series amps and Avatar cabs, or just buy the Avatar's directly from Dave. Hard to beat


    Good luck!
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    Re: I need a New Amp

    Well the old amp gave up the ghost last night I don't have the heart to trash her so I put it in the basment with all my other crap I can't throw out.
    I got a nice deal on a Fender 100 wattt combo with 2 10" speakers
    ($285.00) and it sounds nice too. I still plan to take your "2cents" and build a head and cab system. I have few guys at work that want to try and put something together if it works out I'll need something with more boom!
    Again thanks for all the great info and I hope you all have a Great and Happy Holiday Season!

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    Re: I need a New Amp

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarge View Post
    I got a nice deal on a Fender 100 wattt combo with 2 10" speakers
    ($285.00) and it sounds nice too.
    Are you playing a 5-string through it? How does the 2x10 handle the lower notes?

    -Mark

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    Re: I need a New Amp

    I have a 4 string Fender J Bass with active E
    The 2X10 set up is alittle brighter then I'm use to, and quicker too. But I get a much cleaner bass sound then I ever got with my old amp and for around the house its seems to be just fine.

    5 string was on my Christmas list I got alittle cash and with my Bday coming up I think there will be one in the stable before the end of Jan. Just don't tell my wife..lol

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    Re: I need a New Amp

    I just played a Fender Rumble 60 (60w 1x12) last weekend in a small club. It held it's own on the low end of my 5-string SR405, but I had to goose the bass boost a bit on both guitar and amp. Still, with those adjustments, I was surprised how well it sounded for a bass amp I can easily carry with one hand. That was perhaps the best part!

    ...I mean I love my "big rig", but I hate to schlep it around - and in a smaller venue it just looks stupid.

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    Re: I need a New Amp

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarge View Post
    I have a 4 string Fender J Bass with active E
    The 2X10 set up is alittle brighter then I'm use to, and quicker too. But I get a much cleaner bass sound then I ever got with my old amp and for around the house its seems to be just fine.
    You might try and find one of the OOP Fender "Spectrum" bass cabinets. It has an 18" and 2x10s with a crossover. My brother gave me one that was surplus to his stage needs and it kicks out pretty good for a small package -- easily good for a coupla hundred watts of your favorite head or rack-mount amp. His regular rig is a vintage Acoustic 370 with two speaker bottoms or a SUNN Coliseum with a pair of 200S cabs stuffed with K140s. He called this Spectrum his "training cab". But it really does sound pretty righteous.

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    Re: I need a New Amp

    Might just be talkin' heresy here, but I'll take my chances.
    I'm all for taking Doc's advice.
    My son just went through the same thing and for just a little over $500 he got the Behringer bass head, the 350 watt one (450s weren't out yet) and a couple behringer speaker cabs with the bugera speakers in them. It's been a good solid gigging rig for the past 4 years.
    Would he upgrade? Yep! in a heartbeat ifn he had the cash but he'd never get rid of this rig, it's been too good to him.
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    Re: I need a New Amp

    Quote Originally Posted by Plugger View Post
    "Deep thumping" and "moved easily" sorta pull in opposite directions in my limited experience.
    I know this was posted a long time ago...

    But these days, outrageous amounts of SS power are available in lightweight packages. My old 1980s Seymour Duncan 600w amp is around 35 pounds. My newer SWR 900w amp is a little more than half that.
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    Re: I need a New Amp

    I saw some of the new Eden stuff too........almost 4 lbs.....350 watts at 4 ohms.....
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    Re: I need a New Amp

    I hear those Walter Woods amps are supposed to put out like 1200w and weigh like 4 pounds.

    From what I understand he's the H.A.D. of the bass amp world.
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    Re: I need a New Amp

    I need a new bass head too!

    I need a head to go with a 1x15 + horn Cab. 8 ohms.
    Last edited by MMP; 02-14-2008 at 06:40 AM.
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    Re: I need a New Amp

    You really can't go wrong with the G-K, Hartke, Peavey, Ampeg Stuff. Stay away from the backline/starter series (My opinion)

    What are some of the opinions on new under $500?
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