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    K&K Sound

    I'm finally putting a pickup in my old acoustic guitar.

    I've seen great things here about the K&K Sound Mini.

    I'm planning to go with the Ultra Pure Western Mini which will include their small, in guitar, pre-amp. They sell it through their outlet at a very reasonable price.

    Any advice or opinions are welcome.

    Thanks!

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    Re: K&K Sound

    I've got a K&K mini on one of my guitars, which I use with a Baggs PADI. It sounds really, really nice. I seem to have some sort of issue with it momentarily cutting out when I play percussively, which I'm in the process of figuring out whether it's a bad connection, or inherent to the design.

    I ordered a K&K outboard preamp for a friend overseas, and I wasn't too impressed with the controls. It seemed a bit cheesy. I didn't plug it in to see how it sounded.
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    Re: K&K Sound

    OK, I just checked the K&K site.

    They say the cutout problem comes from the pickup overdriving the PADI, and causing it to cut out, and the pickup is fine. Supposedly due to the ultra-high Z of the PADI.

    I'll mess around with the input trimpot, and possibly a nice 1Mohm resistor on a dedicated guitar cable and see if that does the trick. The PADI really allows you to dial in a sound.
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    Re: K&K Sound

    K&K sells a volume control for the pickup. You could probably make your own and tuck it in the sound hole.

    I'm gonna go ahead and order the Ultra Pure Western.

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    Re: K&K Sound

    Most folks prefer the minis. I'm guessing because they are less mass on the soundboard.
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    Re: K&K Sound

    I ordered the minis with the in-the-guitar preamp.

    Did you install yours yourself? I read the manual. It looks fairly straightforward.

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    Re: K&K Sound

    I had a pro do it, but I'm not good with anything that involves more than a screwdriver. Lots of folks do it themselves with good results.
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    Re: K&K Sound

    I'll be doing it myself. I'm pretty handy with things like that.

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    Re: K&K Sound

    I just dialed back the input gain on the preamp, and they were right. No more cutout.
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    Re: K&K Sound

    The pickup and preamp showed up already!
    I'm a bit nervous using super glue on my guitar, but I'm sure it'll be fine (actually, I'm more concerned about damaging the pickups than the guitar!)!

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    Re: K&K Sound

    It's done. It wasn't hard at all. It sounds fine though I don't have a PA or acoustic amp here. I tested it through my bass amp.

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    Re: K&K Sound

    Excellent!
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    Re: K&K Sound

    cool, bass amps work great for keys and acoustics. clean tone and usually a decently flat response.
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    Re: K&K Sound

    I was dying to hear it. It was really bassy at first, then I realized I had the bass on the amp cranked. When I eq'd the amp flat, it sounded good. The pickup's pre-amp has gain and eq trim pots on it.

    I'll probably get to plug it into a little PA tomorrow at a jam at my Cousin's (my band's harp player) house.

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    Re: K&K Sound

    If you have a respectable home stereo system, you may note excellent results with the K&K pickup on an acoustic guitar plugged into the auxiliary or mic input. Set the amp or receiver's tone an' EQ controls to "flat" an' work from there.

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    Re: K&K Sound

    I've had a K&K Trinity system in my 810 since I bought it in 2002. Gees, 7 yrs already.

    I've been through a number of preamps, Rane AP-13, Dtar Solstice, Ultrasound DI, PADI, Taylor K-4, BBE Acoustimax. I like the PADI best and just using the pickup. Dual sourcing with the mic got to be a pain, although I do also have a Baggs MixPro which is awesome and I may be going back to it.

    I also use an Aphex Acoustic Xciter in the FXloop of the PADI. It really brings out and tightens the lowend and adds clarity to the highs, they sing.

    I have the full size pickups in mine, but also have a spare set of mini's. I didn't realize the mini's were that much smaller really. Thought they were all about the size of the standard middle one.



    Did you use the jig method?

    http://www.frettech.com/kk/

    http://www.kksound.com/pdf/jig.pdf

    http://www.dickeyguitars.com/dickeyg...kkinstall.html

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    Re: K&K Sound

    Kap'n, I had your same issue, and Deiter talked me into buying one of their preamps to deal with that cut out. It solved the problem but I miss the PARA and all the shaping of the sound. Even when I screwed around with it, it would still cut out on me.

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    Re: K&K Sound

    Mine's still working fine with the gain trimmed all the way back.
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    Re: K&K Sound

    Great to see you Kap'n!

    I was having issues with mine being really bassy, almost like the bass pickup was way louder than the treble pickup. I checked and they all appeared to be installed fine.

    I actually considered installing separate trim pots for each pickup.

    Instead, I turned the gain down, the bass all the way down, the mids low and kept the treble at the middle detent and it sounded great at home.

    I also tried it without the built in pre-amp. It sounded just as bassy and w/o the EQ controls it couldn't be as well balanced. I actually have it set so there's LESS gain with the pre-amp than without it!

    I'll be plugging it into a PA tonight. I think it'll sound great.

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